Ultraseal Puncture Prevention Experiment

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Seamus
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Post by Seamus »

Sorry to be a cynic :rolleyes: but if this product is so great
Carl, I am a natural cynic and the whole point of this thread (as the subject line might indicate) is to see if this product is any good.

If I find any problems with the product I will be feeding that back too as I have no axe to grind either way.

DPH
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Post by DPH »

Carl

The othre reason is the dealers make a mint out or replacing tyres that get punctured near the tyre wall.......about £100 a tyre isn't going to be turned away by Peugeot's coffers.

carl
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Post by carl »

Who in their right mind buys replacement tyres from Peugeot, though?
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Post by Derek »

mugs :rolleyes:
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Post by DPH »

The same people who hand over well over 600 notes for an exhaust when it can be sorted out for under 200.

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Post by carl »

Yes, but even mugs know that you won't invalidate your warranty by buying tyres from elsewhere.
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Post by DPH »

Some people have more money than sense

Alex LS
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Post by Alex LS »

Technically, you shouldn’t know you have a puncture.
And you shouldn't really need to know. If it can't be sealed, the tyre will deflate. If it can be sealed, the repair is permanent and you don't need to do anything about it anyway.
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Post by Alex LS »

Sorry to be a cynic :rolleyes: but if this product is so great, why don't companies like Peugeot (and others who make cars with no spare) include this treatment on new cars, rather than put a couple of cans of ineffective tyre foam in the boot?
Why do they not apply Diamond Brite or Supaguard to all their cars? Why do the rear light clusters use filament lamps instead of LEDs? Why do they not fit K&N filters? etc.
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Post by carl »

Yes. but unlike your other examples the absence of a spare wheel is an area where CCs are deficient in comparison with other cars. Instead of supplying an ineffective kludge, Peugeot et al could have provided a decent solution with associated kudos, increased sales, etc.
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Post by Alex LS »

There are several reasons why they wouldn't do this, including but not limited to:

1. They would have to test the product rigorously themselves, a process which starts before the cars goes into production. Since the product has only been around a few years there's no way they could have done this. In comparison, the foam has been around for decades and is well tested.

2. It's more expensive than the foam they currently provide.

3. There's no reason for them to do so since nobody else provides it as standard. If several manufacturers started using it, you'd probably see a greater uptake in the same way as electric windows, CD players, aircon, sat nav etc.

The benefit to Peugeot (an extra selling point) is probably far outweighed by the cost (both of testing and providing). Nobody's going to choose a 206cc over another car simply because small punctures are sealed automatically. After all, I've only ever had two punctures in nearly 14 years of driving, one of which needed a roadside solution and the other just needed pumping up at the next garage to get me home. On that basis, using the foam and risking £80 for a replacement tyre (and I'm not sure that's necessarily true) is a much cheaper option than paying £40 every couple of years.
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Post by carl »

In comparison, the foam has been around for decades and is well tested.
Why doesn't it work then? :D
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Post by Alex LS »

It does ;)
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Post by perCC »

Hi All
It's not just CCs !!
My brother bought a brand new VW Touran and guess what :?:
2 cans of foam and no kind of spare tire.
He loves it-he put 18" alloys on not bothering about the spare :D
Cheers, Per