Electric Roof Problems!

[cockneyrebel]

I've had my 206cc 02 plate for about 3 months now and all was going well and i was loving my little pug. During the freak warm weather last week i decided to give it a wash and polish, once completed i put the roof down (it went down with no problems) while i cleaned the interior. Once done i attempted to raise the roof again only to be greeted with continual beeping noises and no attempt of movement from the roof even after multiple attempts nothing was happening!
After discovering the Youtube clip with the Manual lifting procedure i managed to get it back up eventually and have gone through every post i could find (hence finding this great little place) to try and find a possible solution as money is very tight at the moment, but to no avail.
With the roof now up pushing the button to retract it also gives a continual beeping with no attempt at even lowering the windows!

I've checked the fuses (although the Haynes manual and online info give different locations for the roof fuse?)
Checked all the micro-switches i could gain access to and seem to be clicking fine (couldn't get to the ones in the windscreen pillars though)

Anyone know of anything else i could try to remedy this?

Also after manually lifting the roof back in place I'm unable to get the small release hooks that seperate the top and bottom sections of the boot to relatch so basically the top section of boot is being held in place by the jumpers that control manual/automatic locking, this allows movement on the top section of boot which is making me nervous to even attempt to drive it.

Anyone know how to get these latches to hook back in just so i can at least drive it again till i can address the main problem?

[craigdmjv]

when cleaning the boot did you touch anything e.g. the security tabs look here for info about the roof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbMLjCjD-H8

[cockneyrebel]

Thanks forthe quick response craig.

Thats the actual video i watched to close my roof manually so followed the instructions carefully, but at the end where it says to pull down to engage the latches (video time 2:54) where he shows the movement in the boot thats what i still have with the boot fully down.

I didn't actually clean in the boot area (yeh slacker i know) so couldn't have touched anything in that area before the fault occured.

[Capncol]

I've moved this to the "roof" section of the forum where you should get more help. At the top of that forum is loads of info regarding roof problems & solutions, if that doesn't sort it we will do what we can to help.

[cockneyrebel]

Sorry Capncol, should have known to put it in the 'roof' section seeing as I've spent the last few days going through all the posts in there! (doh)

Thanks again.

[Capncol]

No problem. Just a thought, have you tried *flexing* the boot up & down while you wiggle the clips. They can be a bit stubborn?

[cockneyrebel]

Unbelievable! just noticed a switch i hadn't checked in one of the forum posts so went out torch in hand and removed the cover and checked it, turned out to be fine

Pushed the boot up and down a few times and low and behold it latched! wtf!
lol spent over an hour trying that the last few days and nothing.

So I'm a happy camper where that parts concerned, still looking for help with the roof problem but least i can drive my pug now

[craigdmjv]

did you use interior polish and is this blocking a micro switch

[cockneyrebel]

Nope just gave it a quick hoover inside craig no polish used.

[Paula R]

Hi had exactly the same problem with my roof - did the manual procedure on you tube and can't get the top and bottom of the roof to latch together so afraid to drive it. How did you manage to lock them back together. I would be grateful for any help. Many Thanks

[Zahra]

I got 206 cc last week from a friend and the sensor is not fine. But wen I bought it I could do the roof lifting up mechanically after watching YouTube Vedio I am sure I am doin everything exactly in the same order but my car gives short continues been the entire time.i really want the beeping to stop because it is very enjoying no matter what I do it keeps beeping while roof is open or close. Please give any solutions.... Has anyone faced the same problem earlier ?????????? Thanks

[cockneyrebel]

Hi had exactly the same problem with my roof - did the manual procedure on you tube and can't get the top and bottom of the roof to latch together so afraid to drive it. How did you manage to lock them back together. I would be grateful for any help. Many Thanks

I'm not exactly sure Paula, tried for hours with no luck then just tried it again a day later and by pulling the upper part of the boot down it just latched on its own! i have seperated it again since and again it wouldn't latch. This time i used a srewdriver to lever the white release latches back into place and its seems to be holding but doesn't feel fully latched to me.

I realise thats not much help but i dont understand how it worked myself. I do know when you lift the upper section of the boot the cables attached to the latches tighten pulling them up, and by lowering it allows them to go slack again which should in theory allowing them to lock in place, but it doesn't seem to ever go just enough to fully lock! again i think this has to be done under power using the button in the car.

[cockneyrebel]

I think the first thing to do if anyone is having the same problem is check all 11 switches shown here...

http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12945

Both manually by pushing them and listening for a click (you may have to have the roof both fully up and fully down to test all the switches as some are permanently switched in either position) and if you have the know how to then test them with a multi-meter or test probe to make sure their switching electrically. Check all the plugs are connected properly (each switch has a plug close by).

I've done this on my car now and all the switches seem to be working fine. My next step is going to be checking the actual switch iside the car that lowers the roof to make sure thats working properly (will let you know how that goes) and if that proves to be ok then all thats left is the ecu controller or the hydraulics, although i have experience on hydraulic systems and its very rare for those to fail mechanically anyway. Still haven't ruled out the possibility that the only way to correct it after an error is for peugeot to do it using one of there plug in fault analysers! but that will be a last option as money is tight!

[cockneyrebel]

Quick update on my roof problem, not driven the car since the probem started but since getting the boot section to fully lock decided to give it a run down to a friends. Only a 25 minute journey but involved a motorway drive so i could get some speed up. Anyway soon as i started moving i got continual bleeps all through the journey both there and back which were subsequently drowned out by loud music thanks god. As i pulled up into my drive i decided to give the roof one more go before having to book it into a main dealer and low and behold the boot started to drive open??
Couldn't test it fully as its raining at the moment and didn't want to risk opening the roof and not be able to close it again.

Is it possible that although the car was starting first time every time that it was sensing the battery was too low?
OR did i shake something back into place whilst going over a bump during the journey?

Either way wont know till i can try it and see if its fully working again tomorrow if the weather holds out.

[Capncol]

and low and behold the boot started to drive open??
Couldn't test it fully as its raining at the moment and didn't want to risk opening the roof and not be able to close it again.

If you start to open the roof, you should let it complete the operation before closing it and not send it in other direction half way through. This can cause problems.