New Owner Today, New Faults Today, I need help please

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Simon Ireland
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New Owner Today, New Faults Today, I need help please

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Hi guys,
I bought my first 206cc today, it drives lovely and is in really good condition, apart from of course the roof.
The car constantly buzzes at me to tell me the roof is open? faulty? I do not know, but it's already driving me insane.
I've been to my local mechanic and we've plugged the car into his laptop and I've also spent the evening looking through all of this forum, I just need a little more help, I'm sure you've already covered it, but please, bare with me.
The laptop showed up:
Boot Open Switch - Open Circuit or Short
Roof Closed Switch - Open Circuit or Short
Roof Open Switch - Open Circuit or Short

I'm pretty sure I've found where 2 of the microswitches are, but I cannot find the Boot Open Switch, Is that the same as the Boot Closed Switch on the boot lock?
Next question is, how do I go about checking which switches are faulty / dirty without replacing them all in one go? For example, is the Roof open switch fault displaying a fault because the rood closed is faulty or vice versa?
One last question, and apologies for the long first post, but I cannot find the actual window switch for the rear windows, can these be operated by rear passengers or only work automatically when the roof folds?
Many Many Thanks in Advance
Simon
Dublin

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gazza82
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Re: New Owner Today, New Faults Today, I need help please

Post by gazza82 »

The rear windows drop after the door windows are down. There is no separate switch.

We had an issue and it was a connector behind the boot lid liner for the loom. It pulled out easily. Boot switch is in lock mechanism.
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Post by Simon Ireland »

Thanks, I'll try the rear windows tomorrow and see if they will work. There seems to be a microswitch on the actual boot lock thats bolted to the rear panel. In diagrams this is called the Boot Close Switch, I wonder if it is the Boot Open switch too.
The car is really in great condition apart from this roof problem, I have to get it fixed :)

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Post by gazza82 »

The switch will tell the system if the boot lid is properly closed so check that .. and the small one on the boot blind bracket to the left ... you are closing the boot blind?

You can download a copy of the handbook from this site and there is a wealth of info under the Roof section on how to trouble-shoot the roof system. Work through the system methodically and try one thing at a time ..

Sometimes just a dodgy battery can be the cause of many problems.
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Thanks for your reply this morning, I'm going to go out now and put a solid 4 or 5 hours into getting this fixed. First i'm going to see if the rear windows work, then try and reset the roof as in the pinned post, and then I'll have a look at those 3 microchips. The mechanic up the road said to remove parts around the switches and he'll test them for me. Is it just a case of cleaning them up or replacement?

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Re: New Owner Today, New Faults Today, I need help please

Post by Simon Ireland »

Ok,
I've taken off both interior trim covers over the locking latches, lhs microswitch works, but on the rhs when you operate the latch it doesn't move the microswitch. So theres one fault found.
I've also found that the metal part of microswitch in the picture attached has come off, so theres my second fault found too.
Now, my problem is I've had the car plugged into Peugeot Planet this afternoon and operated these faulty switches manually and it still isn't clearing the errors or showing any movement in these switches, whether the switches are on or off.
What do you guys recommend I do next?
Thank you
Simon
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Anyone please? I'm still really stuck on this :/
Thanks

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Post by Capncol »

You need to change the switches first.
Cheers Col.


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Re: New Owner Today, New Faults Today, I need help please

Post by Slo »

Just unplug that boot lock switch and forget about it, I have on mine and it doesnt interfere with the roof or alarm or central locking.

It used to ping up the boot open message on the screen with the beeps and was driving me mad.

Its a really bad design on the switch mechanism as the spring that holds it against the boot lock is very strong and because of this, with the boot vibration when driving wears a flat spot inside the shaft of the plastic arm that presses onto the switches causing it to jam up stiff.
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