Noisy gearbox

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leegsi
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Noisy gearbox

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I have a noisy gearbox and its doing my head in.

Its a 5 speed (MA I think) fitted to a 1.6 16v engine.

I replaced my 20CN20 gearbox for one from a scrapyard that I was told was good and would fit.

They sent me a 20CP43 which did fit (Seems to rev higher for the same speed than the old one) but its noisier than my old one so now going about getting that sorted.

What causes the noise and how easy is it to sort as I am thinking about possibly fixing my old box whilst its out so I can swap it back in and get a refund for the faulty one the scrapyard sent. Is it one specific bearing than makes all the noise?

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Without knowing more about the symptoms can't even guess as it could be any of the bearings. Did you replace the clutch?

BTW the different codes denote different ratios (among other things) as that gear box was fitted to many Peugeot / Citroen model small cars & vans with differing engine sizes & power and different sized wheels
Cheers Col.


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Re: Noisy gearbox

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When under load either accelerating or decelerating its a really loud bearing noise.

Put it in neutral it doesnt do it.

Dip the clutch when driving the noise goes away.


Yes I did replace the clutch at the same time.

I did have a read of your gearbox strip down but its beyond my skills. Do you offer a rebuild service as I have my old gearbox with the same symptoms but not as bad?

Thanks

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Could be diff, or input / output brgs. Does it change in pitch with different gears?
I can rebuild it. It depends how quickly you want it. I'm around the Solent half the week but this would be a workshop job back in Reading.
Cheers Col.


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Re: Noisy gearbox

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No pitch change in different gears.

How long would it take to do?

Wouldnt mind waiting a few weeks if needs be as atleast I would know it was good.

Feel free to message me and let me know prices and time scales.


Thanks

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Price depends on what needs changing. I repair your box rather than offer service exchange. Worst case is your box is beyond repair due to major damage to gearclusters or casings , but that is rare.
Repair time is about 3-4 hrs work. The issue is when I could fit it in. If you can wait til after Easter, it takes the pressure off a bit.
Cheers Col.


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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Any idea roughly on cost (Just a ball park figure)

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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There are about 11 bearings in there that vary from a few quid to about £40, so without taking it apart, it would be a complete guess. I can strip it and then give you a much better idea of what the cost is likely to be.
It would cost £35 to strip it far enough to assess a cost and you can decide if you want it done or not.
Cheers Col.


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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Would it be worth just getting you to fit this lot so its basically a recon box: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-307-1 ... Nz3eV46mpA

I am about to sell the car to my brother inlaw so want it to be good but dont want to spend the earth lol

If you think its worth doing that kit how much to strip and rebuild the box?

And thanks for all your help so far :)

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Yes I can do that. Take it you will be supplying this kit?
Strip and rebuild would be £100- £140 depending on time.
Can you return the kit if Gearbox turns out to be U/S?
Cheers Col.


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Re: Noisy gearbox

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I think the best thing to do is give you the box to strip so I know if its worth doing or not.

Did you say your in Hampshire this week?

If you are let me know your address as I could drop it up one evening this week.

Thanks

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Pm me your number and I can ring you when I go down
Cheers Col.


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Corvette C3 (my toy)

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Messaged you and look forward to hearing from you

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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Yep. Got it
Cheers Col.


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Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)

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leegsi
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Re: Noisy gearbox

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Any idea when you could have a look yet ?

Thanks