Hi all
I had a very unfortunate moment with my 206cc, timing belt snapped while cruising on the freeway.
My can model is a 2006 206cc 1.6L Petrol Auto with VIN number VF32DNFUB44903228
I'm looking to replace the whole engine and found few of them on ebay. They look like they are from a 206 and one is from a 307. Can you guys tell me if they going to fit and match my 206cc?
Also, are there any complications after completing the engine swap (assuming the new engine is in good operational condition)
And final question, how easy/hard is to install this type of engine, is any electronic special tool required? Is there any detailed instructions video available?
ebay . com . au/itm/131494005797?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
ebay . com . au/itm/272112474282?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
ebay . com . au/itm/201497219415?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Thanks in advance.
Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
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gpktm
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Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
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- Capncol
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
That engine is used in various Citroen models too- C4, Xsara, Berlingo, Saxo etc:.
It is quite straight forward to change.
Try and get one from the same year as in my experiance there can be minor, but significant differences between different years- such as slightly different type or positions of sensors meaning wiring loom doesn't quite reach and needs to be modified.
No special tools needed
Have you stripped it to see if you can salvage the original engine with maybe a different head?
The 'CC models tend to be lower mileage cars than their saloon / hatchback / van equivelents as they are often used as a second *fun* car rather than main car, and also tend to be more pampered.
The last thing you want is to fit another engine only to find it is knackered!
It is quite straight forward to change.
Try and get one from the same year as in my experiance there can be minor, but significant differences between different years- such as slightly different type or positions of sensors meaning wiring loom doesn't quite reach and needs to be modified.
No special tools needed
Have you stripped it to see if you can salvage the original engine with maybe a different head?
The 'CC models tend to be lower mileage cars than their saloon / hatchback / van equivelents as they are often used as a second *fun* car rather than main car, and also tend to be more pampered.
The last thing you want is to fit another engine only to find it is knackered!
Cheers Col.
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
I'm sorry to hear of your mishap.
As a matter of interest we know your car is 10 years old but what total mileage had it covered when the timing belt snapped?
As a matter of interest we know your car is 10 years old but what total mileage had it covered when the timing belt snapped?
Ron
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"If it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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(Previously owned a 2005 206CC 1.6 Allure Moonstone for 10 years)
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gpktm
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
Hmmm... very useful tip there. I've found one from a 206cc but is from 2004 model. I think I might need to advise Peugeot first, hopefully they will be keen to help.Capncol wrote:That engine is used in various Citroen models too- C4, Xsara, Berlingo, Saxo etc:.
It is quite straight forward to change.
Try and get one from the same year as in my experiance there can be minor, but significant differences between different years- such as slightly different type or positions of sensors meaning wiring loom doesn't quite reach and needs to be modified.
No special tools needed
Have you stripped it to see if you can salvage the original engine with maybe a different head?
The 'CC models tend to be lower mileage cars than their saloon / hatchback / van equivelents as they are often used as a second *fun* car rather than main car, and also tend to be more pampered.
The last thing you want is to fit another engine only to find it is knackered!
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gpktm
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
195.000kms. The timing belt suppose to be replaced about 15.000kms ago, but because of some confusion I thought was done in the previous service (stupid me didn't read the invoice carefully), so it would happen sooner or later. I had a sign in the morning while I tried to start the car, I could hear a strange noise coming from the hood like a component hitting something, but after I restarted the engine the noise was gone and having peace of mind thinking the belt was replaced in the previous service, my thought didn't even go close that might be the belt. So after, cruising on the freeway, it just snapped, I was doing 100km/hr so the damage must be big, valves for sure, head, and I don't know about the rest, I will inspect it with a micro-camera tomorrow through the spark plug holes to see if the pistons are hit.GrandadMonkey wrote:I'm sorry to hear of your mishap.
As a matter of interest we know your car is 10 years old but what total mileage had it covered when the timing belt snapped?
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iooiuk
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
Don't just think that because the belt went that it has wrecked the top end.
Have a good look at it 1st before spending money that maybe a waste
I had a Ford Serria that lunched its belt and only bent one valve (very odd) & a Vauxhall Caliver that came out totally undamaged... And that included me cranking it over for quite a while at the side of the road to see if i would start
Have a good look at it 1st before spending money that maybe a waste
I had a Ford Serria that lunched its belt and only bent one valve (very odd) & a Vauxhall Caliver that came out totally undamaged... And that included me cranking it over for quite a while at the side of the road to see if i would start
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
As the Peugeot is an interference engine like my Alfa it is possible that the big-end shells have been damaged .. the hit of valves on piston squashes them. At 100 km/hr, that is a very big possibility ... mine were damaged on the starter motor!!
They work for a while but they will wear .. which results in the big-end knocking and damage to the crank ..
I have the T-shirt .. and two very large bills 12 months apart ...
They work for a while but they will wear .. which results in the big-end knocking and damage to the crank ..
I have the T-shirt .. and two very large bills 12 months apart ...
Family Fleet: ex-Cayman Green 206 CC 2.0 LE, Indigo Blue 206 1.4 HDi Hatchback, Subaru BRZ Auto, Alfa Romeo MiTo
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gpktm
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
I don't think worth repairing. I've checked with the cam and looks like the pistons have dints on them. The last one I think even has a crack, unless is carbon deposits.
https://www . youtube . com/watch?v=-aWpW2PaPB4
https://www . youtube . com/watch?v=-aWpW2PaPB4
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gpktm
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
I've found this engine which comes with parts and labour warranty (additional cost) and the shop is close to my place. The seller says it suits my 206cc but I need to replace the sump. Is from a 2002 307 Manual, what are your thoughts guys?
http :// www . ebay . com . au/itm/281937002460?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The engine's VIN is: VF33CNFUB82736082
And my VIN is: VF32DNFUB44903228
And here's a list showing vin numbers and various specs like injection system, transmission, etc.
http: // www . peugeotlogic . com/workshop/wshtml/specs/vincode.htm
http :// www . ebay . com . au/itm/281937002460?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The engine's VIN is: VF33CNFUB82736082
And my VIN is: VF32DNFUB44903228
And here's a list showing vin numbers and various specs like injection system, transmission, etc.
http: // www . peugeotlogic . com/workshop/wshtml/specs/vincode.htm
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gpktm
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
I have another question just came into my head. Do you guys know if when fitting the new engine, any reprogramming or codes are required?
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
You may have to swap some parts over. I think your car has the later plastic throttle body and that engine has the earlier alloy one. You won't have to program anything, but it would be worth fitting a new clutch and timing belt kit before putting it in.
Cheers Col.
206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
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Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
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gpktm
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
Yes definitely timing belt is a must! 
I might go for a different engine though to avoid any "surprices". This one is also from 206 and the same year as mine and is an NFUB. I think is a perfect match. The only thing that bugs me a bit is that the car involved in the accident was hit from the front, the damage doesn't look that bad though. What you reckon?
I know I might have been pain in the neck, but as yours 206, mine is also wife's toy. So I don't want any nagging if that thing breaks down again after a couple of months
http :// www . ebay . com . au/itm/201522001877?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I might go for a different engine though to avoid any "surprices". This one is also from 206 and the same year as mine and is an NFUB. I think is a perfect match. The only thing that bugs me a bit is that the car involved in the accident was hit from the front, the damage doesn't look that bad though. What you reckon?
I know I might have been pain in the neck, but as yours 206, mine is also wife's toy. So I don't want any nagging if that thing breaks down again after a couple of months
http :// www . ebay . com . au/itm/201522001877?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Re: Replacing a 1.6L Petrol engine
Can't open that link for some reason. Be vary wary of front end collisions as important lugs and fixings can get broken off
Cheers Col.
206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
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Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
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