New 206cc Owner - What to look for

[Skezza]

Evening everyone,

So, we woke up this morning. My girlfriend needed a new car. Something small and practical, a 1.0 Lupo, 1.2 Polo, Fiesta, 206 .... something cheap. My gf decides that cheap, slow, economical, practical hatchbacks are now officially out of fashion and buys a bloody 2.0 litre, 206 cc.

Anyway, I have to admit I'm a tad jealous (haven't mentioned it ). I always thought I'd be the first to get a hot hatch having grown up loving 205 Gtis and Mk1 Gti Golfs, but yup, I do like it.

Right so just a bit of background on it, it's got 98k on the clock. The roof opens and closes fine it seems. It's in very nice nick considering the age. An 02 plate she paid £950 which I'm guessing is top money but to be fair it had £700 spent on it just yesterday for the MOT, so I'm guessing the guy was just trying recoup some of that. Understandable.

Is there anything we need to look out for? I'm aware the roof needs the hydraulic levels checking regularly so I'll have to work that out. The interior seems good as gold, very clean. I've not had chance look at all the climatatronic stuff but it all seems to be working fine. Anything we need to look out for in the on-board computer?

There is only one key which is a problem for me so I'm looking at the options. It's a two button remote, which if you press lock twice double deadlocks it(?) I've been reading various sites but getting mixed messages. Is it a case of buy a new key from eBay get it cut then do the ignition/lock pairing lark and it's coded? Or does it need something more?

Any advice, suggestions etc would be great

[Capncol]

Welcome to the 206CC forum

Evening everyone,

So, we woke up this morning. My girlfriend needed a new car. Something small and practical, a 1.0 Lupo, 1.2 Polo, Fiesta, 206 .... something cheap. My gf decides that cheap, slow, economical, practical hatchbacks are now officially out of fashion and buys a bloody 2.0 litre, 206 cc.

Anyway, I have to admit I'm a tad jealous (haven't mentioned it ). I always thought I'd be the first to get a hot hatch having grown up loving 205 Gtis and Mk1 Gti Golfs, but yup, I do like it.

Right so just a bit of background on it, it's got 98k on the clock. The roof opens and closes fine it seems. It's in very nice nick considering the age. An 02 plate she paid £950 which I'm guessing is top money but to be fair it had £700 spent on it just yesterday for the MOT, so I'm guessing the guy was just trying recoup some of that. Understandable.

Is there anything we need to look out for? I'm aware the roof needs the hydraulic levels checking regularly so I'll have to work that out. The interior seems good as gold, very clean. I've not had chance look at all the climatatronic stuff but it all seems to be working fine. Anything we need to look out for in the on-board computer? Computer either works or not. You would be better concentrating on mechanical issues such as making sure the cambelt has been changed or at least is not due. Make sure servicing is up to date

There is only one key which is a problem for me so I'm looking at the options. It's a two button remote, which if you press lock twice double deadlocks it(?) I've been reading various sites but getting mixed messages. Is it a case of buy a new key from eBay get it cut then do the ignition/lock pairing lark and it's coded? Or does it need something more? You would need to get the transducer coded or else it won't start

Any advice, suggestions etc would be great

[Skezza]

Thanks for the advice

Sorry, failed to mention the cambelt was done 2 years ago on 76k miles. Checked that along with service history and MOTs before buying. It's had a lot of work done which I don't know is a good thing or a bad thing. I see that the cambelt interval is down as 80k or 5 years which seems a bit long for me, so I might suggest she gets it done after 4 years or 50k.

What kind of mechanical gremlins are common? I'm considering whether it's worth getting the gearbox oil renewed seeing as that's always a painful experience.

Shame about the key. There's a company online doing none remote keys for £45 so I might go to him. She only needs one remote after all.

[IanL]

... There's a company online doing none remote keys for £45 so I might go to him. She only needs one remote after all.

Got that t-shirt

Have a look here - much cheaper - http://www.carkeyhelp.co.uk/products/Pe ... E72AT.html

You will need someone with Peugeot Planet to program the transponder. It requires the car, the security code (four digits) and the other key. The latter is because the programming wipes the car's memory of keys, so both need to be placed/replaced in the memory in the same exercise.

Btw, the security code is not the same thing as the key code, which simply defines the cutting. The security code should be on a credit-card-sized card in the document pack. If it is lost, you need to get it, using the VIN. Cost 18.99 from http://www.carkeycodes.co.uk/page-3---p ... -here.html

[Skezza]

So it begins

OK, so girlfriend is driving to work this morning, and calls me to tell me there is all sorts of beeping going on. EML comes on and the little screen is saying 'anti pollution fault' then a second later 'catalytic converter fault'. Apparently this is happening every 5 seconds or so. Now I've done some reading on here and it seems that the screen can be misleading, and the fault can be a false positive, so I'm going to scan it later and see if it picks anything up.

I get the impression from the previous owner that it hadn't been driven for a good few months. His wife had given birth to their second child in late 2015 and they quickly went out and bought a larger more practical family vehicle. As such, I get the impression this hasn't been driven much lately at all. I find it very hard to believe the cat would fail 2 days after passing an MOT, so I won't. For all we know what little petrol (and there wasn't much) left in the tank was shit anyway.

I've told her to try and give it a bit of a boot on the way home tonight, blow out any cobwebs. Her route to work this morning probably won't have really involved much getting her foot down (maybe a short stretch up to 60) but I really think she could do with getting it on a dual carriageway and it hitting it up to 70 and putting her foot down a bit in the lower gears.

I think the other random beeping is being caused by the boot lid. When we drove it yesterday, it beeped a couple of times and just for a second it flashed the rear boot lid on the mini computer. I'm guessing the microswitch is dirty or something, so I'll have a look at that another day.

I know this might sound bodgeriffic, but is there any way to turn the beeping off just temporarily? While we get these issues sorted? It's driving her nuts.

Finally, I would also like to do an oil change. I think it's been done relatively recently, but I don't know what with so I like to get my own oil in there asap. I can't seem to find online where the oil filter on the 2.0 engine is? I see the 1.6 is in the engine bay. Does the same apply for the 2.0? I hope so. I have a topside oil extractor Tbh, I'm half tempted take it to a place, pay them £40 (seeing as that's the price, then just watch them so I know where the filter is ) Lazy, but quick and then I'll know for future.

I was going to attach a photo of it, but unfortunately I'm not authorized :'(

[Capncol]

Alarm is part of BSI so no easy way to shut it up other than fix what is causing it.
Anti pollution could well be sorted with some fresh fuel and a bit of a thrash. BTW, cambelt is 80K/10years, not 5years. Oil change and a set of Bosch super4 plugs will do it good. Easy DIY, just look for plastic cap for oil filter.

[Skezza]

Alarm is part of BSI so no easy way to shut it up other than fix what is causing it.
Anti pollution could well be sorted with some fresh fuel and a bit of a thrash. BTW, cambelt is 80K/10years, not 5years. Oil change and a set of Bosch super4 plugs will do it good. Easy DIY, just look for plastic cap for oil filter.

OK, she'll have to just deal with the alarm till we can get the issues sorted. At the end of the day, you're right on about the beeping, it's doing it for a reason and it needs sorting. She's come from a KA, so you can imagine that thing didn't even beep when her headlights were left on..... and my car doesn't even have an engine management light

So, despite being over 10 years old this car is pretty high tech for us haha. Every so often, some random new feature pops up and we're like "oki doki", we only worked out yesterday the FF And 00 thing on the dash is an oil level sensor, then it started giving wind speeds on the little screen, I think ?

So the cambelt can last 80k or 10 years, that's crazy! Kind of wish my VW's cambelt lasted that long Still, we need to double check when it was done. I would like to find the receipt as the first quick pass I didn't find one, but there's lots and lots of random receipts, plus even more in the service manual. It's definitely had a lot of work on it. New clutch not long back for example. In fact, we need to go through all documentation properly. I was pretty sure he pulled out a receipt at his house with the cambelt on, but it was absolutely hammering it down with rain (I notice the buyer guide says don't buy in the rain ), so we need to check for sure. I don't want her risking the engine, not when it's only a couple hundred quid if she goes to my mate.

As you can imagine it was a stressful couple of days, so by last night we were well past wanting go through the entire documentation
That said, if it hasn't been done, then it's overdue, by years and miles. He was convinced it was done on 76k, which is about right because the MOT odometer would line up roughly with that age, but without checking again, I would be nervous. So I'll be looking again.

So just to confirm, the oil filters in the engine bay you say? On a 2.0? Awesome. Best bit of news I've had all day. I love topside oil changes, no mess, no rolling around on the floor and no waking up with back ache in the middle of the night.

I see CP4Less are selling those Super4 spark plugs for fairly cheap, so I'll order four of those. Just deciding whether to get 5 litres of Petronas 5w40 or Shell Helix Ultra 5w40. Had nothing but good experiences with Shell but the Petronas is about 6 quid cheaper and if it's good quality then it might be worth going for.

[IanL]

Just a personal view, but I would not go beyond 50,000/5years for a cambelt. Not worth the risk.

I bought my 206cc at 31,000/10years with no history, and had it done, and got the waterpump done at the same time. It turned out to be nearly seized, so that was a good decision

[Skezza]

Sounds about right to me. I really need to get a Haynes manual for this car.

[Capncol]

You change it whenever you like. I was just giving you the PSA recommendation.

[Skezza]

You change it whenever you like. I was just giving you the PSA recommendation.

Yeah, I'll probably get it done soon if we don't find a receipt. It's not something I like toying about with. Still, I love the idea that they can last 10 years/80k miles. I doubt Peugeot pulled that number out their arse. Impressive figure really.

Just need to find the oil filter in the engine bay? Any idea which side it's on?

[Skezza]

God I can't stand Redex, but currently Tesco are selling it at 2 pound a bottle and I'm rather tempted to bang a bottle in along with some premium fuel. I know she's put fresh fuel in but no doubt there's still lingering fuel from the last owner.

Edit:
I see that the 206 GTI does not share the same engine as the 206 cc. Great news. Looks like I can do a topside change, which means absolutely no excuse not to bloody do it Think that's my weekend sorted Well, not the entire weekend, topside change should only take half an hour

[GrandadMonkey]

I wouldn't bother with Redex. Just ensure that you use decent fuel such as Shell V-Power Nitro+ or BP Ultimate. I never use inferior fuel and never fill up at supermarkets.

If you do lots of short runs that can cause a build-up of unburnt hydrocarbons which the lambda sensors can detect and put on the warning lights. A long run getting the engine up to normal operating temperature for a while should clear it.

[Skezza]

OK so the Anti pollution/cat fault hasn't appeared today which I think is a good sign. It just needs driving and using everyday, no doubt it'll be fine. The boot is still beeping, so I need to look at that.

Next job after that is oil change. I'm still struggling to find a definitive answer on the location of the filter, the repair guide on here suggests it's in the bay but the first look I had, I didn't spot it, which is why I'm half tempted take it to an oil change place. My local one only charges £40 for a filter + fully synthetic oil, DIY'ing only saves about £15 really, however it's more about finding the filter for future reference. I do hate crawling under a car, especially when I do know where the bleeding filter is.

[IanL]

According to the Peugeot Service Box, your filter is a cartridge, mounted below a casting which projects from the front of the cylinder block.