catalytic converter/anti-pollution warnings

reap · Post by **reap** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:13 pm

hia
wont be a hdi if tis 1.9
hdi is normaly 1.4,2.0,2.2,2.8 sofim
what prob you getting.is diag light on?

sivrajha · Post by **sivrajha** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:50 pm

Well at least I'm not alone; stumbled on this thread and the feedback is very useful. Like most people we love driving the CC but it's been dogged by the dreaded Cat/Anti P warning and a couple of times let the missus down in slow traffic. It's a 2003 2.0lt so fits the bill (and just out of warranty with 27k on the clock and a full Dixon Peugeot service record).

This is the story so far; which might help somebody else trying to diagnose the problem.

I had the tappets done in April and was trouble free for about a month when, after being parked in the rain (well it was the lake district), the dreaded warnings flashed up, didn't notice a performance issue 'cause I was stuck behind a tractor at 2 miles an hour. Then a week later (in the dry) I get a call from the missus about loss of power, it ran OK when she restarted the engine and a couple of days later the warning disappeared.

Got it into Grimsby Dixon's Peugeot for a Â£49.99 interim service and asked them to check it out; result - Coil Pack and Spark Plugs Â£130 fitted (3+ discount).

The missus does a 500 mile round trip - no problems. Then, the next day, after the recent heavy rain storms it does the same as before ahhh!

Back to Peugeot; I suggested to them that the Lambda sensor could be contaminated/faulty (after advice from various guys at work) - "The Computer says Naaaow" Mr Peugeot says "Â£400 please for 4 new injectors". I say "What about the Lambda sensor?", Mr Peugeot responds "The Computer says Injectors!". (what ever happened to real mechanics?) "Stop" I says "otherwise we'll end up on Watchdog; I'm not writing you a blank cheque". Mr Peugeot responds "OK" you give me Â£400 and I'll guarantee it will fix the fault; if not we'll pay for all the labour until we do resolve the issue (I still pay the parts!).

Hmmm, not a bad offer me thinks but 400 notes is still a lot of dosh so I'm going see how expensive the Lambda sensor is and either fit it myself or get an independant garage to fit it, if that doesn't work then I will have to take Mr Peugeot up on his offer and spend the holiday money.

Can anybody advise (reap are you there?) how easy a Lambda sensor is to fit; I know one end of a spanner from the other but some jobs are more awkward than others and I don't have a Haynes manual?

Cheers, sorry for war and peace, I'll let you know how I get on.

Post by **GrandadMonkey** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:26 am

Why not get your local MOT test garage to do an emissions check for you first if your suspect the Lambda sensors? Better than paying over Â£200 for sensors only to find that they were OK in the first place.

sivrajha · Post by **sivrajha** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:58 pm

Thanks for the suggestion, I forgot to mention it passed it's MOT in May on it's 3rd birthday so that's why I suspected the Lambda sensor might be dodgy (see previous item from 206GTI owner). Didn't realise they were Â£200 though so may have to go back to plan P!!

Post by **GrandadMonkey** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:18 am

sivrajha,

See

http://www.206info.co.uk/index.php?name ... &&start=15

and look at post dated

Jan 14, 2006 5.17pm by 206rallye

Ron

reap · Post by **reap** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:45 pm

poss could be a lambda sensor. easy to change all be it under the car.i havent had many issues with lambda sensors on the 2.0 rfn.they seem to be randomly changing stuff to try and make it work?
did they or have you got a print out of there diagnostic trace.
that would help me alot.

knobby · Post by **knobby** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:11 pm

I had this problem, firstly they replaced 2 injectors, was ok for a week then it came back and the computer was saying it was cylinder 4, this was one that had a new injector fitted, so the dealer spoke to the peugeot boffs and they then replaced a wiring loom that was 3 weeks ago and all has been fine, this wast the 1.6hdi 110 engine

Bob

AllieB · Post by **AllieB** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:51 am

I hope this helps someone with the problem I had.

I have just bought a 2002 peugeot 206, 2.0 litre diesel. Whenever I went over 60 MPH, the anti pollution fault message came on and I lost power, having about 55mph as a top speed. After I had started the engine about 4 times, the light did not show and the problem seemed to have cleared again until I sped up!

I took the car to two peugeot garages and Â£400 and 7 visits later, the problem was still there. The MOT was due and in desperation, I tried to get the light to come on so another garage could have a look at it. In complete temper, I drove on a dual carriageway with roundabouts all along it and revved the car into the red. After the third time of doing this, the car surged forward, gave me complete power and I have had no trouble since. I drive about 1000 miles a week.

I have been told since that this was probably due to the car being kept stationary with very little diesel in before I bought it and some gunky fuel therefore got stuck somewhere in the engine - by revving it up, I dislodged the blockage and off I went.

I'm amazed that the garages didn't think of this, surely it is a common problem?

plymcouple · Post by **plymcouple** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:51 am

Having read all this post and look on the internet we have had this problem since the car was a year old (now 3.5 years old- 30000miles). Its a 2l french import.
Our plan is to have the coil, plug and cables changed, if that dont work then change the lambda sensor and if that dont work have the tappets done. (Only worry here is I saw another site which said have the 2.2 ones fitted and here its says 1.

So is this the best course of action and any more details on the tappets option would be great

reap · Post by **reap** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:40 pm

yep. on the 2.0 engines.you need to use the 1.8 hydrolic follwers.i have posted cause and part numbers reqiured on here...may heve to do a search :0

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Post by **Lyndon** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:07 pm

no worries, if it helps out

alixashurst · Post by **alixashurst** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:59 pm

Woohoo! My 2litre cc has thrown up the "AntiPollution Fault" message... but there appears to be no loss in performance. I also get the intermittent - "STOP" dashboard lights up / dials zero etc at high speed but again no apparent loss in performance so I've got used to ignoring that! - oh, and my radio just gave up one day Sept 05 and the garage wanted loads of money to fix it so I've settled for the CD player since then...

Reading through this string of messages makes me wonder if she's gonna give up on me soon and do the whole not-starting thing or if she's just gonna feel better in a few days and forget the whole thing ever happened. I do around 350 miles a week on motorways so I don't want to get stuck but I get so sick of taking her to the garage just to have my pockets emptied - If she's driving fine, should I bother getting her checked out?

Any suggestions please? Thanks.

chrisgscott22 · Post by **chrisgscott22** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:35 am

Im having the exact same fault as has been mentioned in this forum over and over again.

I have a 2001 plate 206 2.0 litre. 55000miles.

Im gonna start with the lambda sensor the work my way through other possible problems. I dont fancy having to change the tappets.. lot of money for a fault on peugeots behalf.

I will let you know how i get on.. Thanks for all the helpfull posts people..saved myself a few quid on a diagnostics check.

chrisgscott22 · Post by **chrisgscott22** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:38 am

Right quick update.

Phoned peugeot dealer this morning to investigate what the prob might be. They want 100 quid to look at it. Anyway was ryming of the probs i think it is starting with the lambda..he said it could be but i would have to diagnost it first.

I mentioned the problem with the tappets and he said this is a very rare problem...very unlikely to be that.

Im going to check the sensors myself with a home test kit.

Been told that if the sensor is knackered then there wont be any power or very little current running through it.

There are 2 sensors on the cat convertor. one at the front and one at the back.

Prices: sensor 1 Â£165.86 (dealer)
sensor 2 Â£145.72 (dealer)

Will keep you updated...