Hit the poor motorist again why don't you.

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 3:47 pm

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/1611044

I say reintroduce the man walk ahead with a red flag!

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 4:07 pm

Sorry any one whose tried the link and got nothing. I've edited it. Should be OK now

Ben302 · Post by **Ben302** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 6:39 pm

I think its Nanny state gone Overkill IMO

ladymxenna · Post by **ladymxenna** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:42 pm

I don't have a problem with it if it saves a few lives. The trouble is is that people come up with these initiatives in isolation. There has to be a more creative strategy to traffic reduction, and death reduction. This in itself won't do it.

I know how frustrated I feel when someone is driving at 30mph - feels like I am crawling. Watch out for the increase in road rage.

Having said that, at 20mph, it gives people a chance to admire my car.... I can pose more than I already do!!

coooool baby

stephen T · Post by **stephen T** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:07 pm

this clearly a money spinner i am sorry. oustide schools etc.... ok fair enough. how many speed cameras do u see outside schools? none. motorways, all over the place. its all to make money.

ladymxenna · Post by **ladymxenna** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:15 pm

this clearly a money spinner i am sorry.

Not quite sure about that. I am aware that many of the speed cameras don't actually have film in them because of the prohibitive costs. Therefore more people get flashed at with no resultant penalties than get flashed at and fined.

I suspect that it's designed to be a deterrent but I don't think it will be effective.

Maybe it's conditioning. We get used to 20mph, then 5 years down the road to 10mph. Maybe the idea is that in 30 years we have to carry our cars to work.

stephen T · Post by **stephen T** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 7:03 pm

i dont agree. i feel quite safe doing 90 on the motorway. and i adjust my speed to the condition of the motorway, how heavy the traffic is and weather conditions. however i would never speed oustide a school. therfore cameras would be better served oustide school etc.... they want to catch you. they want the money. seatbelt fines for example. shouldnt it be my choice if i want to endanger my life? a 30quid fine for a seatbelt is just daft. they are all money spinners.

ladymxenna · Post by **ladymxenna** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:00 pm

Ooof!

I don't agree with any of that i'm afraid. But then if we all agreed with each other, wouldn't life be boring!

I hear ye mate

stephen T · Post by **stephen T** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:06 pm

fight fight fight

ladymxenna · Post by **ladymxenna** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:08 pm

My dad's bigger than your dad!

stephen T · Post by **stephen T** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:13 pm

muahhahahahaa

nx · Post by nx » Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:29 pm

Check out the following:

http://www.abd.org.uk/one_third.htm

which details some interesting statistics resulting from the Transport Research Laboratory survey into road accidents.

The homepage for the Association of British Drivers is http://www.abd.org.uk/

stephen T · Post by **stephen T** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:36 pm

i like the glare from headlights bit, does that count for fog lamps 2? because thats a 30quid fine.

Erm · Post by **Erm** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:42 pm

20 mph.......

i mean thats just ridiculous on some roads. Fair enuff on roads with schools and all that but i mean its soooooooooo slow, u wouldnt be able to get into 3rd gear...... sorry i just think its pathetic.

i'm with stephen on this one. And the speed cameras dont have film cause they are digital

On the M25 they can issue 400,000 speeding tickets an hour.....i can see the $$$$$$$$ in they eyes on the government!!!

oh and quick note.....PUBLIC TRANSPORT SUCKS!!!! i hate it!!!!

Burge · Post by **Burge** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:48 pm

I think public transport is Ok. As I work for Arriva I get a free train ticket to work, couldn't travel to work any quicker in my car and with the money I save it pays for the CC!!!

Burge